[현장생중계]Chang-Hum Byun, attendance at the National Assembly Homeland Committee… Inquiry about the’LH speculation suspicion’

[심상정]

I would like to point out that the government’s follow-up measures are causing more disappointment to the people. You said you’re going to announce the investigation tomorrow, right?

[변창흠]

I’m not sure exactly the date yet.

[심상정]

Isn’t it that the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport and LH Corporation will announce tomorrow?

[변창흠]

About the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport and all LH employees until yesterday evening based on their own standards…

[심상정]

Do you do it tomorrow or not? When are you doing it?

[변창흠]

The date is whether I am today or tomorrow.

[심상정]

Was the content confirmed?

[변창흠]

I don’t know yet. I know I’m analyzing it now because I gave the consent form yesterday.

[심상정]

Therefore, it is our Minister Byeon Chang-heum who ignited the anger of the people in this process. It seems that the investment was not made by knowing the development information in advance. You said something like this. So, did the minister know that they bought the land in advance? Did you know?

[변창흠]

I had no idea.

[심상정]

So, did you try it before you said it?

[변창흠]

I haven’t tried it.

[심상정]

So, did you go to the field as a minister?

[변창흠]

I’ve been there.

[심상정]

Have you been there? So, how did you know that you didn’t even research and know it beforehand, but that doesn’t mean you know the development information in advance?

[변창흠]

I…

[심상정]

That is why the people are angry. That’s the minister’s usual perception, that’s it. Think common sense. People who do not know individual information in advance owed a whopping 5.8 billion each to buy land from blind land, farmland accidents, splitting, planting seedlings, and even local employees on expeditions. Can you explain, the minister? However, what more do you expect from the Minister of Land, Infrastructure and Transport, who has not been able to properly measure public sentiment and is so insensitive to speculation? So the people should resign right away. I think the same way. What are you going to do?

[변창흠]

I have never said anything differently about the government officials that develop the land publicly for any reason, and that the Department of Land’s staff shouldn’t speculate, and of course I think so, and I still think we should make it even stronger. By the way…

[심상정]

Public-owned employees have also collectively launched that into speculation, but is it common sense to say that the minister wraps around my family? You served as the president of LH Corporation for two years. At that time, you talked a lot today about strengthening the integrity of public officials and preventing corruption. Did you take any action as the president?

[변창흠]

During my tenure as a public corporation, I constantly talked about transparency and integrity as the reason for the existence of a public corporation, and I put a lot of effort into it. Nevertheless, my intention was not fully conveyed…

[심상정]

So, I am very sorry that lessons came from both the 1st and 2nd new towns. The whole people are suffering from speculation in the third new city, so shouldn’t it have to be done thoroughly from the group? There seems to be no such thing in the mind of the Minister of Land, Infrastructure and Transport. They all think so. Another thing I would like to check here is that Seyong Kim was appointed as the next president of LH, right?

[변창흠]

I haven’t been notified yet.

[심상정]

It says that all the reports have been put forward, don’t you know?

[변창흠]

It hasn’t come to me yet, and what I suggested…

[심상정]

So, do you know about job agency?

[장충모]

Through the media…

[심상정]

Who makes it, what is it? If you don’t know the Secretary of Land, the minister of a higher-level organization, and you don’t know your agency, who will do it?

[변창흠]

I know it’s a speculative knight right now.

[심상정]

So it hasn’t been proposed?

[변창흠]

There is currently no self-imposed on it.

[심상정]

According to the report now, it was decided because he worked well with the minister as SH president when he was the president of LH Corporation. This report came out. If I look at the data related to this person, he says that he is very rich in real estate. Two apartments in Cheongdam-dong and Seobinggo-dong, Seoul, and one in Mapo under the name of the person and spouse. It owns 4,676 pyeong of land in Ganghwa-do, Jeju-do, and Damyang, Jeollanam-do nationwide. I know how I got to own it, but I have to deal with this LH speculation. What do you think? Can you do it right?

[변창흠]

Regarding personnel rights…

[심상정]

What do you think, as the prime minister. Basically, is it appropriate for such a person to be the president of LH Corporation with such a multi-homed person and a person who owns a lot of land?

I just say one thing because I don’t have time, but I think it will never be accepted by the people. And the minister said earlier that he would certainly push this out of the 2.4 countermeasure anyway, but there is a word that is used a lot in politics. It is said to be incompetent. To alleviate market anxiety, we have to soothe the public’s anxiety first. In this powerful investigation, depending on the results of the investigation, I…

[변창흠]

I fully agree, and I will investigate thoroughly this time and thoroughly prepare measures to prevent this from happening again.

[진선미]

Since it is being broadcast live, I would appreciate it if you take into account that no comments will be made after 7 minutes today. Next, I will ask Senator Park Sang-hyuk.

[박상혁]

Minister, the public is complaining about the allegations of preliminary speculation in the new city of LH employees. All the people are watching today with inquiries on urgent issues. Rep. Sang-Jung Shim, whom I just respected, gave a strict point. Today, I will also ask you a question at the high level. Briefly, we don’t have time, so please respond. Do you feel the comprehensive and moral responsibility of the LH executives and staff as the former president of LH and now as the minister of the relevant ministries regarding the allegations of land speculation in the 3rd new city of Gwangmyeong and Siheung? How is it?

[변창흠]

As the former president of LH and as the minister of the ministry that currently manages the public corporation, I feel a heavy sense of responsibility in this area.

[박상혁]

I know that the minister has written various articles on the eradication of speculation since he was a scholar and has shown such a conviction. Is this philosophy the same?

[변창흠]

Until now, we have continued to strive for anti-speculation measures and fairness, and in particular, the real estate side has made such an emphasis and has not changed.

[박상혁]

However, as shown in the PPT, he made a remark that touched the anxiety and feelings of various people through the broadcast. Is it correct that the minister said that as you can see on that screen? Just answer briefly. Is it true itself?

[변창흠]

Yes.

[박상혁]

Regardless of the reason and purpose of the remarks, those remarks bring great despair and anger to all the people who are suffering and struggling with home problems. Of course, you have already apologized for being unsuccessful, but shouldn’t you have to apologize again here? Are you willing to do that?

[변창흠]

Yes, I think it is entirely my non-examination that the speculative behavior appeared as dull in the process of explaining the reasons for speculation by LH employees. I sincerely apologize for the fact that I have not fully understood the feelings of the people and I have come to speak on this point.

[박상혁]

At the beginning, everyone apologized, and even now, he said that the people are angry and fully aware of the feelings they have about this issue, and that we must take steps to take steps to ensure that we must take steps to ensure that the people are angry, punish the person in charge clearly, and in the future. I think. In the meantime, I’ll ask you a few more questions.

First, I’ll ask you explicitly. Many people are dissatisfied with the issues that LH executives and employees have previously suggested various measures through speculative acts, and whether or not such unfair gains can be repaid or not. . Is this redemption possible? Or is it impossible?

[변창흠]

Basically, there are strict penalties for cases where the current internal confidential information is used. However, perhaps in this regard, we are also actively seeking ways to recover this unfair advantage by mobilizing all regulations within the LH as well as internally.

[박상혁]

Although I have also proposed related laws, experts point out that there are many legally difficult and difficult aspects. But we have anti-corruption laws. According to Article 86, there are rules that allow public officials to confiscate property interests in addition to imprisonment and fines when using business secrets. In connection with this regulation, does the Minister know of an example of a redemption over the years, how is it?

[변창흠]

It depends on how broadly the business secret is interpreted now. Even if the business secret is not a direct secret in the current Supreme Court case, even if the business secret is not a direct secret, a meeting of public officials or obtained indirectly can be regarded as sufficiently secret. I think so.

[박상혁]

Of course, the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport is not conducting an investigation, but I think that it is necessary to provide more thorough data provision and cooperation so that not only the Ministry of Land, but also the government and investigative agencies strictly apply this anti-corruption law to confiscate such property. I would like to ask our LH President, Acting Authority.

If you look at the PPT now, the various types of speculation of LH employees are summarized in this way that I appeared in the media. Dividing stakes, planting trees, buying land for compensation for large soil, and buying land splitting are all out there, but in the industry, stories are being told that you can’t do it unless you are a player like an LH employee. What do you think of our vice president, it seems like an intelligent, organized, and deliberate criminal act that is impossible without an employee or an expert?

[장충모]

First of all, I apologize for the fact that once again this kind of situation has caused anger. The content of employees’ various speculative behaviors is often seen as a speculative factor in various contexts. However, if we come out as a speculative act in the compensation process, we will do so to exclude all compensation related to it.

[박상혁]

And now, the behavior of LH employees is also very criticized. In an email sent by LH employees right now, it was uploaded to an app called Blind yesterday. Is it true that there is such an internal crackdown? If this is true, it can be seen as interfering with the investigation of alleged speculation. Are you currently conducting various internal crackdowns?

[장충모]

It’s not like that. Since we have too many media coming to each, there is a meaning to unify the channels for coverage, and there is a lot of confusion when there is personal information leakage or inaccurate information delivery when covering the media…