[전국][황보선의출발새아침] Pastor Hyeon-bo Son, who has been conducting face-to-face worship, “Why do I only have churches!”

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◇ Anchor Hwang Bo-seon (hereinafter referred to as Hwang Bo-seon): Despite the order to stop operating the facility, two Busan churches that held face-to-face worship were eventually closed. The church has filed an application for temporary injunction to suspend the execution of the executive order and has taken legal action. That church? Pastor Son Hyun-bo of the church is connected to the world in Gangseo-gu, Busan. Hello.

◆ Hyun-bo Son Pastor of Seegero Church in Gangseo-gu, Busan (hereinafter referred to as Son Hyun-bo): Yes. Good morning

◇ Hwang Bo-seon: First, I filed an application for temporary injunction to stop the closing order. For what reason?

◆ Hyeon-bo Son: To put it simply, first of all, the President said at last year’s meeting with the leaders of the church that quarantine is not religion, but science, and that we will do quarantine fairly. However, looking at the government’s quarantine policy now, there seems to be no objectivity, equity, or fairness at all. Because even in a chapel with 10,000 people, gather with less than 20 people, and even in a chapel with 5,000 people, it is said that less than 20 people gather, but it is actually unconstitutional because it is the same as preventing a single person from worshiping except for those who actually broadcast. There are 7.3 million people on the subway every day. However, no one has ever heard of a confirmed case, and if this is the case, isn’t the Seoul subway a miracle subway? And our constitution states that freedom of religion is a value that is superior to freedom of conscience, freedom of expression, and freedom of assembly and economic freedom to eat and live, and even if this fundamental right is violated, it is the last resort or, if so, the time, It is said that the place and the method should be minimized, so it is a fact that we all know that the Supreme Courts of the United States, England, and France, where far more confirmed cases and deaths were reported than in Korea, ruled that the absolute fundamental right of religious freedom should be guaranteed. . Even last week, I took the bar exam, but the government originally did not allow the test to be tested, but when these people applied for temporary injunction, the Constitutional Court cited the application for temporary injunction on January 4th, and if they lose the test session because of being a confirmed person, freedom of career choice. You said you were suggesting excessively. According to this logic, what would be the unconstitutional element of the church where the confirmed person also smiles, preventing more than 80,000 churches in Korea from unilaterally offering formal worship services? That’s why we filed an application for temporary injunction to the court.

◇ Hwang Bo-seon: Then, in other churches, aren’t there any in-person worship or confirmed cases after this? Do you have any worries when there may be a confirmed case in Pastor Son’s church?

◆ Sohn Hyun-bo: If you impose sanctions on the assumption that an incident that hasn’t happened, would you put him in jail because that’s a possible crime? Do you put him in jail for possible stealing? This is against our free constitution. Then, if there is a confirmed person, the church’s sanctions will be imposed or it will make sense. And in areas where facilities are not available, such as small churches, the government should step forward to guide and help the whole people to overcome the coronavirus. I think it is unconstitutional to prevent all churches, unilaterally, and compulsory worship.

◇ Boseon Hwang: So, Pastor Sohn thinks that up to a few people are allowed to worship in person?

◆ Sohn Hyun-bo: As I just said, a church that gathers 10,000 people should have a small number of worshipers to fit its size, and no one other than the person who broadcasts the broadcast is allowed to worship. But in marts, PC rooms, or places that are much more difficult to distance, and in fact, when we go to restaurants, we take off our masks and eat. In such a place, if you open one space, everyone eats, and it is not reasonable to prevent one person from worshiping except for those who broadcast even in a huge chapel, which is more dangerous, the subway is more dangerous, and the restaurant is dangerous. Isn’t it more dangerous to have a church that keeps a lot of things apart, or is it more dangerous that people think we should do our best if we have to be fair?

◇ Boseon Hwang: So, in the case of Pastor Sohn’s church, do you have any thoughts about allowing this kind of in-person worship to any size?

◆ Hyunbo Son: Only our church? Except for the Seoul metropolitan area now, all areas outside the metropolitan area are in the second phase. Originally, in the second stage, 20% of the people in the church are supposed to worship. This is included in the steps announced by the government. All industries outside the metropolitan area do 20%, and only religious groups are limited to 20 or less. Isn’t this fair? They made the law, but they’ve been breaking it because it’s been less than a month since they made it, so how can we relate to that story?

◇ Hwang Bo-seon: Then, how many people can Pastor Son’s church have at 20%?

◆ Hyeonbo Son: 20% of people can worship at a distance of up to 2,200 people.

◇ Hwang Bo-seon: Then, there are lawsuits, other religious facilities, Buddhism and Catholicism, etc. Why do some people have no legal action in other religions, but why does this appear only in Protestants? There are also many such points. What do you think of this?

◆ Hyunbo Son: Yes, it is. For two months from September 14, last year, the government worshiped Buddhism, Catholicism, and Islamic religions normally, and there were no restrictions at all. However, I emphasized that only churches are worshiped in a non-face-to-face manner. Would this make sense? In the same religion, Buddhism, Catholicism, and Islam are all allowed to worship for two months, and if we ask not to offer only church, we Christians are not too good, can we do this even though we are of the same religion? It’s an idea. Even, for example, it was not criticizing religion, but a law meeting was held in Busan a month ago, and many public officials, including the Busan city council chairman, the superintendent of education, the commissioner, and the competent parliamentarian, participated from hundreds to thousands. I say that because these people have followed the quarantine rules, the religion should of course be inspected, but the problem is that the church will accuse you if you do this. But when it comes to Buddhism, it doesn’t accuse it. This is a problem because there is no equity right now.

◇ Hwang Bo-seon: Then, as you said earlier, you are asking to allow up to 20%. Now, when you look at other Protestant and Christian churches, there are quite a few places where you voluntarily worship non-face-to-face. I saw you, but do you have any plans to worship like this?

◆ Hyeon-bo Son: Whether to offer non-face-to-face worship or in-person worship should be left to the will of the members. The government should have less than 20 people, only 5 people, and not 100%. How many people will worship in a country where religion is separated, and how will it be provided? This is unconstitutional.

◇ Hwang Bo-seon: Yes. Eventually, after continuing the in-person worship service, you were eventually closed down. What will change right away?

◆ Hyeon-bo Son: We filed an application for provisional injunction to the court, and we will decide according to the citation for the provisional injunction, and the date for the application for provisional injunction was set at 11:00 tomorrow. So we hope to be quoted, but after seeing the results, our church plans to make decisions and make decisions.

◇ Hwang Bo-seon: What would you do if you can’t quote?

◆ Hyunbo Son: If you say that the quotation is not available, then I will go and find a way to do it properly.

◇ Hwang Bo-seon: Despite the church’s position, there are many gazes at the church that continues in-person worship. Some of these gazes say that it is because the church couldn’t donate because of non-face-to-face worship.

◆ Hyeon-bo Son: I heard such a story, too, and associating the reason for in-person worship with offerings can only be seen as a malicious cut down on the church. Teachers of the school teach children with a teacher’s dream, and of course, they should get paid. But if a teacher cuts you down for teaching children for money, isn’t that an insult to the teacher? Then, did you not make an offering before the non-face-to-face worship service? Of course, the donation is something we should do because it is used to do so many good things through the church and to send missionaries as well. And I don’t think it is right to say something from the outside when each of the saints makes an offering at their own will.

◇ Hwang Bo-seon: Didn’t the offering amount actually decrease a little?

◆ Hyunbo Son: Our church has nothing to do with it, because we helped more neighbors when it was difficult. Since we have helped hundreds of people in the line of 500,000 won and 1 million won to the poor, we were able to actually do more because the members of the church gave more actively.

◇ Hwang Bo-seon: Yes. Now, a listener texted me. “I wonder if I can not sing, not eat, and just pray.” You said.

◆ Hyeon-bo Son: Not only did a lot of people get involved in the press, but from the beginning, we thoroughly use masks, distances, and hand sanitizers, and we sit up to 2m to worship. However, if it turns out that corona has occurred because of a worship service, a meal, and a coronavirus due to the worship service, the service will be stopped and stopped. . If it happens while eating, we don’t eat rice, so we don’t eat or consume rice. Our church sits in one direction and worships. So it’s safer than anywhere in a restaurant or coffee shop.

◇ Hwang Bo-seon: Then, you said that you had a face-to-face service, but you followed the quarantine. Are you in a position to take measures accordingly if there is a confirmed case in the future?

◆ Hyunbo Son: Right. Corona is something anyone can get, and it’s not because I want to get it. However, it is our responsibility and our duty to do our best to prevent quarantine.

◇ Hwang Bo-seon: Yes. The listener texted me. “Is it necessary to worship face-to-face in order to gain faith? If you worship on the air, don’t you feel religious?” You say.

◆ Hyeon-bo Son: First, worship is one of the core of Christian life, which has been passed down thousands of years ago, and face-to-face worship has content that cannot be dealt with with non-face-to-face. Why do we send our children to school? You can just do it online at home. However, when we send all our children to school, there is a difference between meeting with a teacher and taking classes at school, and doing online classes, and again, did we not see the factor that scores may drop because many students cannot attend classes due to coronavirus? ? There is a difference between face-to-face and non-face-to-face worship, so it’s good to be able to provide face-to-face worship as long as possible to keep quarantine as far as possible.

◇ Hwang Bo-seon: I see. Some people talk about this. Some people around the world talk about the connection between the church and the Liberation Day assembly, and there are also claims that there is a relationship with Pastor Kwang-Hoon Jeon. Is this true?

◆ Hyunbo Son: It has nothing to do with Anchor-nim and me right now. But what would I say if someone came up and asked him what he had to do with YTN anchor Hwang Bo-sun? I haven’t even been to Gwanghwamun.

◇ Hwang Bo-seon: You are saying that there is no relationship at all. And 576 people were confirmed cumulatively at the Sangju BTJ Fever Center. Also, only one-third of those who went there were diagnosed. How do you view this situation?

◆ Sohn Hyun-bo: Those who participated, if any, should be examined, and cooperate with quarantine.

◇ Hwang Bo-seon: Yes. I’ll listen to you today. Thank you.

◆ Hyunbo Son: Thank you.

◇ Hwang Bo-seon: Pastor Hyun-bo Son has been with us.